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placename:- St John's Beck
other name:- Bure, The
parish St John's Castlerigg and Wythburn parish, once in Cumberland
county:- Cumbria
river
coordinates:- NY3123
10Km square:- NY32

1Km square NY3123

photograph

St John's Beck -- St John's Castlerigg and Wythburn -- Cumbria / -- At Sosgill Bridge. -- NY31572105 (at) -- 5.2.2007

text:- Mason 1907 (edn 1930)

Page 21:-
...
At the head of Thirlmere the road turns, and we get a peep down the sweet Vale of St. John's, watered by the Greta river. ...

placename:- Greta, River
date:- 1907
period:- 1900s

old map:- Garnett 1850s-60s H

Map of the English Lakes, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, 1850s-60s.
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wiggly line, river
date:- 1850=1869
period:- 19th century, late; 1850s; 1860s

descriptive text:- Otley 1823 (5th edn 1834)

Guidebook, Concise Description of the English Lakes, later A Description of the English Lakes, by Jonathan Otley, published by the author, Keswick, Cumberland, by J Richardson, London, and by Arthur Foster, Kirky Lonsdale, Cumbria, 1823 onwards.
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Page 40:-
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The river issuing from Thirlmere, commonly called St. John's beck, has formerly been called the Bure ...

other name:- Bure, River
date:- 1823
period:- 19th century, early; 1820s

source:- Otley 1818

New Map of the District of the Lakes, in Westmorland, Cumberland, and Lancashire, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Jonathan Otley, engraved by J and G Menzies, Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland, published by J Otley, Keswick, Cumberland now Cumbria, 1818; pblished 1818 to 1850s.
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river

old text:- Camden 1789 (Gough Additions)

Britannia, or A Chorographical Description of the Flourishing Kingdoms of England, Scotland, and Ireland, by William Camden, 1586, translated from the 1607 Latin edition by Richard Gough, published London, 1789.
Page 182:-
...
On the north side of Castlerigg, on the river Bure, were lead and copper works, ruined in the civil war.

placename:- Bure, River
date:- 1789
period:- 18th century, late; 1780s

old map:- Clarke 1787 map (Ambleside to Keswick)

Map series, lakes and roads to the Lakes, by James Clarke, engraved by S J Neele, 352 Strand, London, included in A Survey of the Lakes of Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, published by James Clarke, Penrith, and in London etc, from 1787 to 1793.
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river
date:- 1787
period:- 18th century, late; 1780s

old map:- West 1784 map

A Map of the Lakes in Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, now Cumbria, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, engraved by Paas, 53 Holborn, London, included in the Guide to the Lakes by Thomas West, published by William Pennington, Kendal, Westmorland, and in London, from the 3rd edition 1784, to 1821.
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river
county:- Cumberland

old map:- Bowen and Kitchin 1760

New Map of the Counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, Emanuel Bowen and Thomas Kitchin, published by T Bowles, John Bowles and Son, Robert Sayer, and John Tinney, 1760; published 1760-87.
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wiggly line, into the Greta
date:- 1760
period:- 18th century, late; 1760s

old map:- Simpson 1746 map (Wmd)

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Wiggly line, flowing north into the Derwent.
county:- Cumberland
date:- 1746
period:- 18th century, early; 1740s

old map:- Bowen 1720 (plate 260) -- perhaps relevant

We are not sure where this bridge and stream were since Wythburn Water was enlarged to become Thirlmere reservoir. Note that St John's Beck is a tributary of the River Greta, which Bowen also calls the Thurlmire Beck.
Road book, Britannia Depicta Or Ogilby Improv'd, including road strip maps with sections in Westmorland, scale about 2 miles to 1 inch, derived from maps by Ogilby, 1675, and a county map of Westmorland, scale about 8 miles to 1 inch, with text by John Owen, published by Emanuel Bowen, London, 1720; published 1720-64.
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Smathode Bridge over Thurlmire Fluvius
At mile 25.

placename:- Thurlmire Fluvius
date:- 1720
period:- 18th century, early; 1720s

old map:- Morden 1695 (Cmd)

Maps, Westmorland, scale about 2.5 miles to 1 inch, and Cumberland, scale about 3 miles to 1 inch, by Robert Morden, 1695.
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county:- Cumberland
date:- 1695
period:- 17th century, late; 1690s

old map:- Ogilby 1675 (plate 96)

Road book, Britannia, strip road maps, with sections in Westmorland and Cumberland etc, scale about 1 inch to 1 mile, by John Ogilby, London, 1675; and a general map of England and Wales.
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In mile 25, Cumberland.
Smathods bridg over Thurlemire fluv:
river crossed by the road, no bridge drawn.

placename:- Thurlemire Fluvius
date:- 1675
period:- 17th century, late; 1670s

old map:- Jansson 1646

Map, Cumbria et Westmoria, or Cumberland and Westmorland, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, by John Jansson, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1646; published 1646-1724.
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Double wiggly line, tapering to single.
county:- Cumberland
date:- 1646
period:- 17th century, early; 1640s

old map:- Speed 1611 (Cmd)

Maps, The Countie Westmorland and Kendale the Cheif Towne, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, and Cumberland and the Ancient Citie Carlile, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by John Speed, London, 1611; published 1611-1770.
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double line, runs into the Great
date:- 1611
period:- 17th century, early; 1610s

old map:- Saxton 1576

Map, Westmorlandiae et Cumberlandiae Comitatus ie Westmorland and Cumberland, scale about 5 miles to 1 inch, by Christopher Saxton, London, engraved by Augustinus Ryther, 1576; published 1579-1645.
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county:- Cumberlandia
river
date:- 1576
period:- 16th century, late; 1570s

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