Old Cumbria Gazetteer
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| placename:- | St John's Beck | |
| other name:- | Bure, The | |
| parish |
St John's Castlerigg and Wythburn
parish, once in Cumberland
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| county:- | Cumbria | |
| river | ||
| coordinates:- |
NY3123
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| 10Km square:- |
NY32
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| 1Km square | NY3123 | |
![]() St John's Beck -- St John's Castlerigg and Wythburn -- Cumbria / -- At Sosgill Bridge. -- NY31572105 (at) -- 5.2.2007 | ||
| text:- |
Mason 1907 (edn 1930)
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| Page 21:- | ||
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| At the head of Thirlmere the road turns, and we get a peep down the sweet Vale of St. John's, watered by the Greta river. ... | ||
| placename:- | Greta, River | |
| date:- | 1907 | |
| period:- | 1900s | |
| old map:- |
Garnett 1850s-60s H
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| Map of the English Lakes, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, 1850s-60s. | ||
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| wiggly line, river | ||
| date:- | 1850=1869 | |
| period:- | 19th century, late; 1850s; 1860s | |
| descriptive text:- |
Otley 1823 (5th edn 1834)
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| Guidebook, Concise Description of the English Lakes, later A Description of the English Lakes, by Jonathan Otley, published by the author, Keswick, Cumberland, by J Richardson, London, and by Arthur Foster, Kirky Lonsdale, Cumbria, 1823 onwards. | ||
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| Page 40:- | ||
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| The river issuing from Thirlmere, commonly called St. John's beck, has formerly been called the Bure ... | ||
| other name:- | Bure, River | |
| date:- | 1823 | |
| period:- | 19th century, early; 1820s | |
| source:- |
Otley 1818
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| New Map of the District of the Lakes, in Westmorland, Cumberland, and Lancashire, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Jonathan Otley, engraved by J and G Menzies, Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland, published by J Otley, Keswick, Cumberland now Cumbria, 1818; pblished 1818 to 1850s. | ||
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| old text:- |
Camden 1789 (Gough
Additions)
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| Britannia, or A Chorographical Description of the Flourishing Kingdoms of England, Scotland, and Ireland, by William Camden, 1586, translated from the 1607 Latin edition by Richard Gough, published London, 1789. | ||
| Page 182:- | ||
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| On the north side of Castlerigg, on the river Bure, were lead and copper works, ruined in the civil war. | ||
| placename:- | Bure, River | |
| date:- | 1789 | |
| period:- | 18th century, late; 1780s | |
| old map:- |
Clarke 1787 map (Ambleside to
Keswick)
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| Map series, lakes and roads to the Lakes, by James Clarke, engraved by S J Neele, 352 Strand, London, included in A Survey of the Lakes of Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, published by James Clarke, Penrith, and in London etc, from 1787 to 1793. | ||
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| date:- | 1787 | |
| period:- | 18th century, late; 1780s | |
| old map:- |
West 1784 map
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| A Map of the Lakes in Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, now Cumbria, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, engraved by Paas, 53 Holborn, London, included in the Guide to the Lakes by Thomas West, published by William Pennington, Kendal, Westmorland, and in London, from the 3rd edition 1784, to 1821. | ||
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| county:- | Cumberland | |
| old map:- |
Bowen and Kitchin 1760
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| New Map of the Counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, Emanuel Bowen and Thomas Kitchin, published by T Bowles, John Bowles and Son, Robert Sayer, and John Tinney, 1760; published 1760-87. | ||
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| wiggly line, into the Greta | ||
| date:- | 1760 | |
| period:- | 18th century, late; 1760s | |
| old map:- |
Simpson 1746 map (Wmd)
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| Wiggly line, flowing north into the Derwent. | ||
| county:- | Cumberland | |
| date:- | 1746 | |
| period:- | 18th century, early; 1740s | |
| old map:- |
Bowen 1720 (plate 260)
-- perhaps relevant
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We are not sure where this bridge and stream were since
Wythburn Water was enlarged to become Thirlmere reservoir.
Note that St John's Beck is a tributary of the River Greta,
which Bowen also calls the Thurlmire Beck.
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| Road book, Britannia Depicta Or Ogilby Improv'd, including road strip maps with sections in Westmorland, scale about 2 miles to 1 inch, derived from maps by Ogilby, 1675, and a county map of Westmorland, scale about 8 miles to 1 inch, with text by John Owen, published by Emanuel Bowen, London, 1720; published 1720-64. | ||
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| Smathode Bridge over Thurlmire Fluvius | ||
| At mile 25. | ||
| placename:- | Thurlmire Fluvius | |
| date:- | 1720 | |
| period:- | 18th century, early; 1720s | |
| old map:- |
Morden 1695 (Cmd)
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| Maps, Westmorland, scale about 2.5 miles to 1 inch, and Cumberland, scale about 3 miles to 1 inch, by Robert Morden, 1695. | ||
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| county:- | Cumberland | |
| date:- | 1695 | |
| period:- | 17th century, late; 1690s | |
| old map:- |
Ogilby 1675 (plate 96)
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| Road book, Britannia, strip road maps, with sections in Westmorland and Cumberland etc, scale about 1 inch to 1 mile, by John Ogilby, London, 1675; and a general map of England and Wales. | ||
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| In mile 25, Cumberland. | ||
| Smathods bridg over Thurlemire fluv: | ||
| river crossed by the road, no bridge drawn. | ||
| placename:- | Thurlemire Fluvius | |
| date:- | 1675 | |
| period:- | 17th century, late; 1670s | |
| old map:- |
Jansson 1646
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| Map, Cumbria et Westmoria, or Cumberland and Westmorland, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, by John Jansson, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1646; published 1646-1724. | ||
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| Double wiggly line, tapering to single. | ||
| county:- | Cumberland | |
| date:- | 1646 | |
| period:- | 17th century, early; 1640s | |
| old map:- |
Speed 1611 (Cmd)
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| Maps, The Countie Westmorland and Kendale the Cheif Towne, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, and Cumberland and the Ancient Citie Carlile, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by John Speed, London, 1611; published 1611-1770. | ||
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| double line, runs into the Great | ||
| date:- | 1611 | |
| period:- | 17th century, early; 1610s | |
| old map:- |
Saxton 1576
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| Map, Westmorlandiae et Cumberlandiae Comitatus ie Westmorland and Cumberland, scale about 5 miles to 1 inch, by Christopher Saxton, London, engraved by Augustinus Ryther, 1576; published 1579-1645. | ||
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| county:- | Cumberlandia | |
| river | ||
| date:- | 1576 | |
| period:- | 16th century, late; 1570s | |
| Old Cumbria Gazetteer - JandMN: 2008 | ||
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